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Chapter 4 • Page 205

Chapter 4 • Page 205

on December 14, 2025
Chapter: Chapter 4: This is not about love
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Discussion (12) ¬

  1. Cody, The Rat
    December 15, 2025, 3:34 am | # | Reply

    Gladys telling that bit about their familial background explains a lot.

  2. Ardbert
    December 15, 2025, 3:48 am | # | Reply

    I’m so tired of this character lmao it’s telling if she’s this exhausting to a reader, the rest of her family must hate her

    • Bubbie
      December 15, 2025, 1:10 pm | # | Reply

      I was thinking this, too, but I also appreciate the nuance of this character since it hits home. We’re tired of her because I think we all know a Gladys.

      • Ardbert
        December 17, 2025, 7:18 am | # | Reply

        Oh absolutely, you nailed it. This and next page really drives it home

  3. Dresden
    December 15, 2025, 5:10 am | # | Reply

    When she was 17… So she was probably 16 when she got pregnant… How much older than her is Shane again?

  4. Duskitty
    December 15, 2025, 12:08 pm | # | Reply

    “my life was shitty so yours should be too” gladys shut upppppp

  5. Lyra
    December 15, 2025, 8:15 pm | # | Reply

    “I don’t want her to have a bad life, but I can’t imagine any other kind of life than the unpleasant one that I went through” is the most agonizing generational divide.

  6. Senri
    December 16, 2025, 7:30 am | # | Reply

    TBH I feel the realness of Gladys and feel bad for her. She wants her daughter to have a good life, a better life than she had, but perpetually fails at understanding her. Her husband is cheating on her, her mother-in-law views her with contempt. She started having way too much responsibility way too young, had kids way too young. It’s really easy to call her a bitch in the comments, but she’s very comprehensible as a character even as she passes traumas on to Beth… idk. I’m glad her sister is in her corner and hope she gets out of her marriage someday.

    • Zemblan
      December 16, 2025, 10:17 am | # | Reply

      Man, Beth was badly sabotaged by this whole hare-brained homeschooling plan. The answer to “Kid tried to sell drugs at school” is not to force the kid into isolation. That’s a recipe for never learning how to function well among peers or develop a meaningful sense of independence and self-pride. What is appropriate is a change of environment, an alternative or continuation school, or — at minimum, like if your parents are crazy and hate public school — third-party-administered distance learning combined with a basic socialization schedule.

      And like, I’m not trying to nail Alice to the wall, but it feels like she should’ve done more in terms of stuff like enrolling Beth in group activities, even if Beth was resistant. I’m sure she was scared of making Beth feel unsafe or triggering behavior that would make Gladys flip out, but letting her stay so isolated seems to have compounded her anxiety and limited her progress. Among other things, an average teen who attends school will be more resilient when stuff goes off the rails with a friend, because they’re around other peers and distractions all day.

      I’ve also seen no evidence of college prep or anything. For someone as intelligent as Beth, that’s bad news. Her mind is going to occupy itself somehow. For a lot of smart, hurt people who don’t have solid grounding for college, the “somehow” can go to dark places pretty fast.

      • Zemblan
        December 16, 2025, 10:19 am | # | Reply

        (Ha, sorry, I did not mean to post this as a reply to Senri)

        • Senri
          December 17, 2025, 7:33 am | # | Reply

          No worries 🙂

  7. Jonah (firelight_waltz)
    December 18, 2025, 12:35 am | # | Reply

    you cant be mad that she doesnt go to school when YOU are the reason she isnt

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