EHHHHH. She believes in white privilege, I think. She’s just being a snob. Also, keep it on the downlow, but…white privilege? Not as real as one might expect. Just saying.
“White privilege.”
He’s a sheltered doctor’s kid. Jenna’s parents own a resort, so she’s not exactly in a lower social class, herself, but her melanin level is irrelevant.
Anna and Frank live in much worse conditions, and both of them are white.
Honestly, this just reminds me of Jenna calling Jeordie “sexist” as a cop-out to his legitimate complaints last page. It’s a cheap accusation and it doesn’t apply here.
I’ve commented on this comic maybe a total of 3 or 4 times, period. I have no idea who you are, or why you would pay attention enough to think you “know” who I am.
You also didn’t refute anything I said.
But if mindless grudges against internet anons is how you function, you do you, man. I won’t pay attention beyond this point, but you can sure go right ahead if it makes you happy. Lmao. Different strokes and all that.
I really wouldn’t pay ’em much mind. Ya saw their response to me by childishly calling me a name. Common sense just doesn’t register with the people that go “REEEEEE! You don’t agree with me!? How DARE YOU!”
Yeah, Draven, the “autistic screeching” meme of “reee” is really making you look like you’re worth listening to. This is why people don’t respond well to you. Because you act like this. This is not the comic to act like an asshole on.
How do we have TWO time travelers in this comment section saying white privilege isn’t a thing? Does their utopian timeline also have no concept of war? Is socialized healthcare the norm everywhere? That’d be sick! Or the opposite, I guess.
There’s this fascinating concept called “intersectionality”. Basically, theres different frameworks of discrimination or privilege you can analyze in society. For example: race, class, gender or sexuality. These are all different things that also influence each other.
Regarding your example though: Anna and Frank being poor doesn’t make people be less racist towards Jeordie. Those are two separate situations that have absolutely nothing to do with each other. Opression isn’t a “who has it worse” competition.
So yeah, Jeordie grew up financially secure , but he IS still black. We see him getting insulted literally in the first chapter, where people behind him call him a terrorist at that 9/11 gym hall meeting (hint: that was because of his skin color and last name). Where he also tells Jenna to be quiet, because he wants to keep a low profile or else he’d presumely get more shit, and she has a similar dismissive attitude about it.
In relation to this page though: if you don’t think authorities will be more suspicious of a black guy smelling like weed/being high than a white girl? I really don’t know what to tell you.
Jeordie being upper middle class doesn’t make him not black anymore lol. remember that Jeordie is also already being somewhat targeted at school for being black (go back to the early chapter where they’re having the assembly about 9/11). a black kid getting caught smoking at school is going to suffer very different consequences than a white kid.
do you think that when people bring up white privilege they’re saying that white people’s lives are never hard?? i feel like that’s what’s happening here, since you brought up Anna and Frank. Anna and Frank live shitty lives, but crucially *their lives aren’t shit BECAUSE they’re white.* their lives are shit because they’re poor. Anna and Frank both suffer immensely under the foot of class oppression, but their whiteness is not what causes this oppression. they do not suffer from race-related oppression.
it is perfectly reasonable for someone to point out that Jenna and Jeordie would face different consequences for the same action based on their race.
She talks about double standards without irony while doing something that, if the genders here were reversed, would ring so many alarm bells it’d get a cover by the Trans-Siberian Orchestra.
For people coming in here to claim that white privilege isn’t a real thing, what on earth do you think this whole page is about? Why do you think Jeordie is so concerned with getting out of that car, but not with whether Jenna will get caught? Why do you think he’s worried about, specifically, that it’s “not a good look for [him] here”? Why do you think he has been, for example, targeted by teachers for fights he didn’t start? The increase in comments leaning rightward makes me think some people aren’t reading the comic, they’re just looking at it. And I don’t think SE would appreciate that.
Agreed. His mom even outright said that people would probably blame him for anything Jenna got busted for.
I don’t think that Jenna is fully cognizant of these differences in treatment and intentionally invoking them (maybe she is, but she just seems too blissfully ignorant and self-centered to pay that much attention to social dynamics around her?) but it’s still a thing going on.
But, intentional or not, malice and ignorance are equally evil poisons if they hurt someone just the same.
I totally forgot about his mom literally saying that. Like this isn’t even subtext, it’s TEXT.
This scene also reminded me of the first chapter with the 9/11 gym hall meeting, where her attitude to Jeordie being like hey, cut it out, this could get me in trouble is similar (kind of an “eyeroll-you’re-overreacting”).
Re: her “just being blissfully ignorant & self-centered to not pay attention to social dynamics around her”(I like how you worded that), another scene that would speak for that is her not understanding why Bryan maybe wouldn’t want to be out as gay in a small rural town with super-religious parents (Jeordie mentions this later, but we can assume Jenna also knows that, since she’s known Bryan longer than him)!
She just doesn’t get it.
I’m sick and tired of Jenna not understanding she gets her own privileges as a white person while her boyfriend is going to suffer from these antics.
I am very worried that she knows that fact very well, and is setting him up as revenge for trying to dump her. 🙁
EHHHHH. She believes in white privilege, I think. She’s just being a snob. Also, keep it on the downlow, but…white privilege? Not as real as one might expect. Just saying.
Go away, Draven Dork.
Go away Jenna.
“White privilege.”
He’s a sheltered doctor’s kid. Jenna’s parents own a resort, so she’s not exactly in a lower social class, herself, but her melanin level is irrelevant.
Anna and Frank live in much worse conditions, and both of them are white.
Honestly, this just reminds me of Jenna calling Jeordie “sexist” as a cop-out to his legitimate complaints last page. It’s a cheap accusation and it doesn’t apply here.
Ah, it’s you again, missing the point of the comic. Hope it gets through later.
“Again.”
I’ve commented on this comic maybe a total of 3 or 4 times, period. I have no idea who you are, or why you would pay attention enough to think you “know” who I am.
You also didn’t refute anything I said.
But if mindless grudges against internet anons is how you function, you do you, man. I won’t pay attention beyond this point, but you can sure go right ahead if it makes you happy. Lmao. Different strokes and all that.
I really wouldn’t pay ’em much mind. Ya saw their response to me by childishly calling me a name. Common sense just doesn’t register with the people that go “REEEEEE! You don’t agree with me!? How DARE YOU!”
Yeah, Draven, the “autistic screeching” meme of “reee” is really making you look like you’re worth listening to. This is why people don’t respond well to you. Because you act like this. This is not the comic to act like an asshole on.
How do we have TWO time travelers in this comment section saying white privilege isn’t a thing? Does their utopian timeline also have no concept of war? Is socialized healthcare the norm everywhere? That’d be sick! Or the opposite, I guess.
There’s this fascinating concept called “intersectionality”. Basically, theres different frameworks of discrimination or privilege you can analyze in society. For example: race, class, gender or sexuality. These are all different things that also influence each other.
Regarding your example though: Anna and Frank being poor doesn’t make people be less racist towards Jeordie. Those are two separate situations that have absolutely nothing to do with each other. Opression isn’t a “who has it worse” competition.
So yeah, Jeordie grew up financially secure , but he IS still black. We see him getting insulted literally in the first chapter, where people behind him call him a terrorist at that 9/11 gym hall meeting (hint: that was because of his skin color and last name). Where he also tells Jenna to be quiet, because he wants to keep a low profile or else he’d presumely get more shit, and she has a similar dismissive attitude about it.
In relation to this page though: if you don’t think authorities will be more suspicious of a black guy smelling like weed/being high than a white girl? I really don’t know what to tell you.
Jeordie being upper middle class doesn’t make him not black anymore lol. remember that Jeordie is also already being somewhat targeted at school for being black (go back to the early chapter where they’re having the assembly about 9/11). a black kid getting caught smoking at school is going to suffer very different consequences than a white kid.
do you think that when people bring up white privilege they’re saying that white people’s lives are never hard?? i feel like that’s what’s happening here, since you brought up Anna and Frank. Anna and Frank live shitty lives, but crucially *their lives aren’t shit BECAUSE they’re white.* their lives are shit because they’re poor. Anna and Frank both suffer immensely under the foot of class oppression, but their whiteness is not what causes this oppression. they do not suffer from race-related oppression.
it is perfectly reasonable for someone to point out that Jenna and Jeordie would face different consequences for the same action based on their race.
Jeordie and Jenna are both dumb kids that need to grow the fuck up.
And before you assume, no, I’m not white.
JENNA! I’m WARNING you, let Jeordie out of the goddamn car!!!!
She talks about double standards without irony while doing something that, if the genders here were reversed, would ring so many alarm bells it’d get a cover by the Trans-Siberian Orchestra.
For people coming in here to claim that white privilege isn’t a real thing, what on earth do you think this whole page is about? Why do you think Jeordie is so concerned with getting out of that car, but not with whether Jenna will get caught? Why do you think he’s worried about, specifically, that it’s “not a good look for [him] here”? Why do you think he has been, for example, targeted by teachers for fights he didn’t start? The increase in comments leaning rightward makes me think some people aren’t reading the comic, they’re just looking at it. And I don’t think SE would appreciate that.
Agreed. His mom even outright said that people would probably blame him for anything Jenna got busted for.
I don’t think that Jenna is fully cognizant of these differences in treatment and intentionally invoking them (maybe she is, but she just seems too blissfully ignorant and self-centered to pay that much attention to social dynamics around her?) but it’s still a thing going on.
But, intentional or not, malice and ignorance are equally evil poisons if they hurt someone just the same.
I totally forgot about his mom literally saying that. Like this isn’t even subtext, it’s TEXT.
This scene also reminded me of the first chapter with the 9/11 gym hall meeting, where her attitude to Jeordie being like hey, cut it out, this could get me in trouble is similar (kind of an “eyeroll-you’re-overreacting”).
Re: her “just being blissfully ignorant & self-centered to not pay attention to social dynamics around her”(I like how you worded that), another scene that would speak for that is her not understanding why Bryan maybe wouldn’t want to be out as gay in a small rural town with super-religious parents (Jeordie mentions this later, but we can assume Jenna also knows that, since she’s known Bryan longer than him)!
She just doesn’t get it.
People are just willfully ignorant IMO, it’s pretty loud and clear.
being forcibly locked in an area, especially when you’re trying to leave, is terrifying
…and the insult to that injury is being “reassured” by the promise of Fabreze. I’m not joking.
Fabreze is nasty, IMHO.
And why the fuck would a teenager smell of Febreze if they HADN’T been smoking up? Does Jenna think the school admin is stupid?